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I think this is one of the main reasons people tend to enjoy books over movies. I know personally, that I feel a kinship with an author through their books, the same can not often be said about movies for me. I can now finally rest easy that I know the ending a bit better know. Similarly, in the book, he attacks an innocent old man returning from the library. Because the main aim of the story is to warn - look, how our society could look like in few decades, think about it. Meredith is a writer, editor and brewpub owner living in Houston, Texas. I think the most shocking part of book (at least for me) is the end of first part when Alex says 'That was everything. And that’s that.". And for the record, the Shining is to me simply another example of good book and good film experience, but one of the few times I preferred the film over book. The book is partially written in a Russian-influenced argot called "Nadsat", which takes its name from the Russian suffix that is equivalent to '-teen' in English. The title A Clockwork Orange is given no explanation in the film, but in the book Alex finds a manuscript in the home of the couple he assaults: Then I looked at its top sheet, and there was the name – A CLOCKWORK ORANGE – and I said: ‘That’s a fair gloopy title. I never read the book because I got it on audiobook and the first thing I heard was Burgess lamenting the missing 21st chapter in previous additions. And that’s that. The charisma of Malcolm McDowell and the playfulness of Kubrick’s style make it easy to find validation in it for sadistic and antisocial ideas and feelings (something that I know from personal experience). And for whatever it is worth, this is my red cent on the matter. otherwise, I suppose that they are two different versions of the same story, and I far prefer Burgess' use of language (Russian propaganda mixed with babytalk) vs Kubrick's dance presentation. They have, to match and fit his needs, because they don't desire justice, they desire peace. [–]izzmond 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (0 children). © 2016 LitReactor, LLC | Privacy Policy | Terms of Service, Joshua Chaplinsky Even though that was also because of the own language, and the way it dragged you into Alex's head, unpleasant as it may have been in there :). In the case of Clockwork, the only change Alex experiences throughout the narrative is ushered in by external forces--so when his 'tormentors' remove the conditioning, he of course becomes the same old Alex again. I might feel the same. But how do you know that’s what happened? (It’s clearly the best.) The text … However, this is the German version. Alex shows no indication of wanting to change. The fall plus the government tinkering while he was out seemed to have fixed him though. No movie will be able to accurately portray the inner dialogue that we are allowed to watch unfold in a book. The reason why the book is more violent - and that's good point - is because it is supposed to disgust us. There are only three specific scenes that were built as sets: … Love both book and film; hate the 21st chapter. [–]Spiro2003[S] 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (2 children). A Clockwork Orange certainly has an originality, but as it took me three weeks to read a relatively short book… One I keep coming back to. In the film, it’s a drunken tramp. More importantly, How can Alex forget? BUT THERE ARE ALSO SOME SETS. …and then I felt the old tigers leap in me and then I leapt on these two young ptitsas. from Athens, Georgia is reading, Mara Dylan I came to the novel A Clockwork Orange via the film and it was a wholly different experience. Depending on who sees it, A Clockwork Orange can make rape and murder appear funny or just plain fun. And education they had had. What was really wanted was a Nixonian book with no shred of optimism in it. Thanks, [–]C_Me 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (0 children). I've been considering reading the book for years now, this article has prepared me for the worst parts (I think), and maybe I'll get the courage up to read it now. Alex didn't just go along with ultraviolence, he reveled in it, and it'd take something powerful to turn him away from it. A Clockwork Orange is a novel by Anthony Burgess that was first published in 1962. A Clockwork Orange is a dystopian satirical black comedy novel by English writer Anthony Burgess, published in 1962. Some do. Perhaps that is the point. Society will generally be fine and most of the youth will grow up and become productive even if an individual chooses the hard road. Always I will suggest people read the book if they like the movie, as they will flesh in details one can't get any other way. The original American publication of A Clockwork Orange also excluded this chapter, in which Alex is growing out of his taste for violence and looking forward to a future with a wife and son, whom he does not want to turn out like Alex himself. I love the movie. The original American publication of A Clockwork Orange also excluded this chapter, in which Alex is growing out of his taste for violence and looking forward to a future with a wife and son, whom he does not want to turn out like Alex himself. I saw the movie first, and its ending sparked an emotional response like few I've ever had to any work of art. More significantly, the ending delineates change in Alex without any meaningful explanation of where it came from or what drove it. Given the content it can come off as nihilistic (e.g. Both Stanley Kubrick and Anthony Burgess are dead and we are left to speculate, praise and condemn based on our own perception of their work. I think Kubrick just ended it where the American edition of the book ended. I personally like both, for their own merits, and recognize them for the individual beasts that they are. The book was difficult for me to get into, but I thought the film was very good. This Spoils the Ending In the Book… The importance of music is highlighted even in the book and it's one of the best aspects of the film. To me, that's the opposite of novelistic storytelling. In the novel, I felt that Alex was a smart lad, who just used his brains for the wrong kicks. So by the end of the movie, when he's "cured" and it's hinted that he is going to return to his old ways, it would seem kind of odd and out of place that there would be a conclusion where suddenly he's grown and changed, because there's no indication throughout that he genuinely wants to change! Just because a work, no matter the medium, may end on a note of moral ambivalence, does not preclude it from being a work of art. The 21st chapter felt as if he'd not only moved past the violence, but that he'd come to understand that he'd made mistakes. I think it may be the other way around. A Clockwork Orange is English-writer Anthony Burgessthe’s most famous book. I'm willing to believe any character can change, but I need convincing. He did indeed volunteer for the treatment, both in the movie and in the book. The twenty-first chapter gives the novel the quality of genuine fiction, an art founded on the principle that human beings change. I love the artistry of his adaptation but the content ultimately distracts my appreciation of the style. They can't decide what people take from that paper. In the book, Alex rapes two ten-year-old girls he’s gotten drunk on Scotch and soda in a horrifying chapter that escalates in casual bleakness. Without this epilogue, A Clockwork Orange ends … In that chapter he is older and be has naturally grown out of his wicked ways. But here’s what’s interesting about Burgess’ claim – in many ways, A Clockwork Orange the film is more palatable than the book. They seal the deal when Alex lets the Governor feed him. The first section opens with Alex, the protagonist, and what he calls his “droogs”: Dim, Pete, and Georgie. Aversion … In fact, this is the only chapter where our protagonist-narrator experiences growth, or more profoundly, … This teen gang drinks milk that’s laced with drugs, and then savagely assaults an elderly man, subsequently destroying the library books … He wrote The Clockwork orange in 1962. Alex runs into Pete who has already changed and then Alex begins to consider becoming a productive member of society. Well, if they would not go to school they must still have their education. So he thinks that last chapter is needed. If you want another book/film with similar theme I would recommend The Lord of Flies by William Golding since it’s about natural presence of evil in everyone. He’s a Kennedy man and Kubrick’s a Nixon man. The message I get from the book's ending is that it placates the reader by sending the message that everything is going to all right and evil people change. When he imagine a girl doing sex with him. His books have been published all over the world and include A Clockwork Orange, The Clockwork Testament, Inside Mr Enderby, Enderby's Dark Lady, Earthly Powers, Abba Abba and The End … In this, however, Kubrick was no different than Burgess, who drew the same contrasts and also used narrator Alex's asides to pull the reader into his confidence. I didn't like the gentling of the child rape and rolling the old drunk scenes, I think the film got vilified enough Kubrick might as well have gone balls-out. @Khalil Clockwork Orange wasn't written by King, and she was referring to The Shining. Speak up in the comments! He tells him that the Left-Wing man who had imprisoned him had been dealt with, and that there was a good job waiting for someone like Alex. Now, if you follow … Maybe the nature of moving images just has a very different effect on my psyche than that of words alone. There is, in fact, not much point in writing a novel unless you can show the possibility of moral transformation, or an increase in wisdom, operating in your chief character or characters. Lots of things to think about. A Clockwork Orange is an outstanding book. It's also not one of those books with clear, easy-to-understand language. Her four most commonly used words are, "The book was better.". To leave a comment Login with Facebook or create a free account. He definitely felt the repercussions of making it (not because of stupidity, as one might smugly suggest, but rather a different sensitivity than his own). from Houston, Texas is reading, Tom1960 Intresting article. Alex, violent criminal that he is, passes through four stages - or, since he's a music lover, we might consider the book … I’d love to hear others thoughts and opinions about this 🙂, [–]ZorroMeansFoxr/Movies Veteran 25 points26 points27 points 1 year ago (3 children). The extra chapter just seems unauthentic and jarring and borderline cheesy... like being a psychopath is something you grow out of as you mature. The same can be said for movies, games, music or any other artistic media. [–]ZorroMeansFoxr/Movies Veteran 13 points14 points15 points 1 year ago (1 child). For leaked info about upcoming movies, twist endings, or anything else spoileresque, please use the following method: Sitting in his office, he gestured to the shelf behind him. Simon Zirkunow/Flickr, CC BY. I should not have written the book because of this danger of misinterpretation. I really doubt whether Stanley Kubrick intended for his film to say anything so specific. Reading through the synopsis of the book made me feel like the last chapter was just his last-ditch attempt to make it a novel instead of a fable. The teenage protagonist, Alex, narrates his violent exploits and his experiences with state authorities intent on reforming him. I am not saying these are invalid ideas; they just seem critically off to me from a secular point of view. Anthony Burgess’ dismissal of the Stanley Kubrick adaptation of his novel A Clockwork Orange is one for the ages. That's not exactly how it goes. So the original ending to the book ends like the movie, and yes, the idea is that he returns (or is going to return) to his old wicked ways. What is the worst performance to be nominated at the Oscars? from Union, NH is reading, K. H. Feikus Alex tells her that while he was drifting in and out of clarity, he thought that the doctors were fiddling around inside his head. No God = no one is ever truly right or wrong about anything, thus satire is one slave criticizing another for being a different kind of slave, which is logically absurd. I like the film because It was a trippy movie and has influenced many people to read the book, but If I wrote it, I'd hate thu movie too. Being raised in America I've been stuffed to the gills with happy endings and bullshit sell-out endings for decades. The film, I am not sure about. The boy is conditioned, then deconditioned, and he foresees with glee a resumption of the operation of free and violent will. So if that’s the case, did he become like that after the suicide attempt or the was it the fact that Alex was really never cured and could never be cured in the first place?? James M. Cain (Double Indemnity, The Postman Always Rings Twice, Mildred Pierce, many novels) was once asked how he felt about how Hollywood had ruined his books. The film plays the dance bit very well (the gang fight, etc...) right up until the rehab when the music stops. Towards the end it also feels as if the author has lost his way a bit, too. Same goes for the costumes which helps us understand that it's happening in future though it's obvious it's not so distant future which is worrying. Who ever heard of a clockwork orange?’ Then I read a malenky bit out loud in a sort of very high preaching goloss: ‘—The attempt to impose upon man, a creature of growth and capable of sweetness, to ooze juicily at the last round the bearded lips of God, to attempt to impose, I say, laws and conditions appropriate to a mechanical creation, against this I raise my swordpen—‘. I wish I could better explain why the irrational preaching of the novel somewhat works for me while the irrational preaching of the film leaves me conflicted. I don't think there's anything glorifying in that. I like Alex feeling tormented at the end, it leaves the question open. I cannot read German. A CLOCKWORK ORANGE is an extremely intense movie. [–]nakedsamurai 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (0 children). It seems as if Kubrick’s deliberate contradictions and tendency to set the audience at unease make those authors uncomfortable, as do his liberal adaptations of their work. This article is entirely opinion, so I have no idea how you came to the conclusion that it was meant to be fact. I see the book as more a statement of society and the baby boomer generation than about one individual although it is told through his eyes. Many sociopaths like Alex don't change. The book, satisfying as it was, couldn't compare. Ending / spoiler for A Clockwork Orange (1971), plus mistakes, quotes, trivia and more. They have two different endings. You summed it up well at the end, "I don’t want to live in a world where I have to choose between a brilliant author or a visionary director, and thankfully, I don’t have to. Alex's age is very important for that unease we're supposed to feel. They can try to guide their audiences to infrences and understandings, but in the end, what people pull from their stories will always be personal and flavored by their own biases and reality. Even once the technique is proclaimed a success and Alex is released, we're not given any indication that he's truly grown and changed, but that he's not in control of his behavior. Burgess believed that “the freedom to choose is the big human attribute,” This belief provides the central argument of A Clockwork Orange… Use of this site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy. [–]isaacpriestley 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children), [–]Tehmsnnnn 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children), I think that alex has become into his normal condition that he was before. Showing all 21 items Jump to: Certification; Sex & Nudity (7) Violence & Gore (9) Profanity (1) Alcohol, Drugs & Smoking (2) Frightening & Intense … So therein lies the root of Burgess’ displeasure with Kubrick’s adaptation. The author of the book Anthony Burgess has commented on the ending. a clockwork orange is the best book ever written because it breaks free of ordinary book structure. I prefer the book without the 21st chapter, and the movie also. from Montreal, Canada is reading, Patrick Riley What I got out of the film is that we all want to feel protected in some way and for that we have given up certain freedoms. Okay, if we’re voting Kennedy or Nixon, there’s a clear answer there unless you want to sound like an asshole, but the true question is Burgess or Kubrick, and I don’t want to choose. I definitely don't buy that. In which case, this is the book … @Josh - that's an interesting angle! Burgess argues that a novel isn’t a “novel” without growth of the protagonist. Because when Alex is in his hospital bed, a psychiatrist comes in and talks to him. So I don’t think the book or the film is better – both have much to offer, different questions to answer. Casting MM was brilliant, and though his mad glee in the violence is palpable, it does nothing to glorify the violence he and his droogs indulge in. In the film, Alex has seemingly consensual sex with two teenage girls not much younger than he. Ps: “he volunteers for the Ludovico conditioning in the book and it’s assigned to him in the film”. A Clockwork Orange ends on a controversial note, as it wildly differs from that of the original novel, which is similar to Kubrick's changes to Stephen King's The Shining. The film version of A Clockwork orange was released in 1971. There are many smaller particulars in which the film and book differ – Alex’s weapon in the book is a razor, and in the film it’s a knife hidden within his cane; in the book he’s conditioned against all classical music, and in the film it’s only Beethoven’s Ninth; he volunteers for the Ludovico conditioning in the book and it’s assigned to him in the film; in the book he’s fifteen and in the film he’s a few years older; there is no mention of “Singin’ in the Rain” in Burgess’ novel. They probably said it but it just went right over me. Regardless, author's can only put things to paper. Now maybe in the book there is and I just haven't read it yet, but from what I've heard, I haven't gotten that impression from the book. A Clockwork Orange, novel by Anthony Burgess, published in 1962. ‘A Clockwork Orange’ the film or the book. The two mediums are  constantly compaired but so very different in their ways. And it doesn’t fit with the rest of the book at all. I didn’t feel like going out in streets and start to punch people when I finished reading the book or watching the film. So which are you? Beware of buying German books without looking. the book has … I read the book many times in my teens and twenties, and did not see the movie until adulthood- I love both versions, though the book wins by a nose. In the English version of the book (I haven’t read) the final chapter shows that he is, for the most part, actually cured and moves away from violence of his own free will. there seem to be no life affirming aspects to its world while there are myriad condemnations of behavior), misogynistic (there are several leering scenes involving fully naked women being sexually abused by fully clothed men) and preachy (lots of in your face antiestablishment humor). I thought that was the case considering his last line in the movie was “I was cured alright”. Kubrick’s film is based on the more dismal American version of the novel, and in a forward written by Burgess in a 1986 edition, he makes his displeasure known: It is with a kind of shame that this growing youth looks back on his devastating past. from Massachsetts is reading, Book vs. Film vs. Mini Series: The Shining, Book Vs. Film Vs. Film: The Girls With The Dragon Tattoos, Everything You Need To Know About Philip Pullman’s ‘His Dark Materials’ Before The BBC Miniseries, 150 Years Later, ‘Little Women’ Is Still The Biggest Of Deals, Stephen King's 10 Best - Yes, Best! Kubrick was right to cut the last chapter. I learned this quote from Stephen King of all people, who I think is over his bad Kubrick experience. © 2020 reddit inc. All rights reserved. It wasn't a cure it was basically a Pavlov's dog style scenario. Whatever follows is probably just as moronic and opinionated, being the product of a writer that can't see the big fat line dividing her unsubstantiated opinions from critical concensuses. Then she tests him, and his answers reveal the truth: That he is again showing the tendencies of a little monster. Thanks for the article (because of just how faithfully the film is I think a comparison is very apt). I certainly don’t believe A Clockwork Orange the film is glorifying sexual violence, nor do I believe by a long shot that Kubrick’s The Shining is the worst Stephen King adaptation. The book I am best known for, or only known for, is a novel I am prepared to repudiate: written a quarter of a century ago, a jeu d'esprit knocked off for money in three weeks, it became known as the raw material for a film which seemed to glorify sex and violence. Kubrick managed, through a masterful merging of imagery, narration and, perhaps most of all, Beethoven's transcendent music, to induce a mix of elation and revulsion like none I've ever experienced. But the freed spirit was that of a depraved, amoral monster. And I find it impossible to swallow morality from someone who doesn’t even try to convince me that there is such a thing outside of delusion. 2) The novel Main Theme. 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